Post by danyhong55 on Dec 19, 2013 10:17:13 GMT
I'm pretty sure I responded to this thread before, and I remember having written something about cliches and archetypes. I guess it didn't hold.
Could this be me just making an excuse? Sure the archetype is a student not doing something on time and or fully, but creating a story to appear as if not doing the homework was out of the students hand. It happens over and over again in this certain pattern. It has a definite set of rules that is recognizable for whatever archetype; there is, however, room enough for variation that it can be made into different stories each time.
A cliche would be something like, "My dog ate my homework." For something to be a cliche it needs to be specific so that most variation of the cliche can be traced back to the original. "My dog ate my homework. My hamster ate my homework. My cat chewed on my laptop. My rat chewed on my poster." Though some of the examples I made up are technically part of the grand archetype of excuses for homework, they can easily be likened back to the age-old, trite, over used cliche of "My dog ate my homework." Cliches become that way because they were once an original idea, part of an archetype, that was considered ground-breaking, impressive, or (at the very least) worth repeating. So it was repeated over and over and over again until people became increasingly tired of hearing it again and again and again. But by the point it passed its prime, the cliche had already embedded itself into perhaps literature, TV, daily life and, most importantly, popular culture. So we've seen this cliche so many times that it lost it's original impressiveness. An archetype would have to work hard to be repeated in a similar enough manner such that it would incited not hate, but disdain to see it again.
Could this be me just making an excuse? Sure the archetype is a student not doing something on time and or fully, but creating a story to appear as if not doing the homework was out of the students hand. It happens over and over again in this certain pattern. It has a definite set of rules that is recognizable for whatever archetype; there is, however, room enough for variation that it can be made into different stories each time.
A cliche would be something like, "My dog ate my homework." For something to be a cliche it needs to be specific so that most variation of the cliche can be traced back to the original. "My dog ate my homework. My hamster ate my homework. My cat chewed on my laptop. My rat chewed on my poster." Though some of the examples I made up are technically part of the grand archetype of excuses for homework, they can easily be likened back to the age-old, trite, over used cliche of "My dog ate my homework." Cliches become that way because they were once an original idea, part of an archetype, that was considered ground-breaking, impressive, or (at the very least) worth repeating. So it was repeated over and over and over again until people became increasingly tired of hearing it again and again and again. But by the point it passed its prime, the cliche had already embedded itself into perhaps literature, TV, daily life and, most importantly, popular culture. So we've seen this cliche so many times that it lost it's original impressiveness. An archetype would have to work hard to be repeated in a similar enough manner such that it would incited not hate, but disdain to see it again.