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Post by racheladele on Nov 20, 2013 1:50:27 GMT
When I originally laid out my definition of art, I called it “a work that makes the observer feel something, or grants them the curiosity to feel something else.” I think this applies very directly to why we keep going back for more when it comes to tragedy. There is something almost magical about the ability of a movie or book to make us feel powerful emotions, and sadness leaves a very different impression than a story with a happy ending. Titanic is impactful for many reasons. Watching it, we fall in love with the Rose and Jack as they fall in love with each other, and at the end, pity their hope for survival. Lost love is one of the greatest tools of tragedy, and Titanic applies this theme in a way that provides a personal connection for those who watch it, drawing us in and drawing us back to it. Often tragedies will reveal inherent truths about the human race that are difficult to tackle. Seeing others go through trying circumstances makes it easier, at least for me. When I lost my grandmother to cancer, I spent the next two years reading novels about people with cancer who often did not survive the length of the book. This soothed my pain to understand that so many people know what it’s like to feel a tragedy of that sort. Another reason that we may watch/read works containing tragedy is because they can have a different effect on us at different points in our lives. There is a lot of truth in tragic stories, but often it is not relatable until something in our own life shows a parallel. For example, I watched the same sad movie twice without feeling much for the characters, but the third time I saw this film it made me really cry. This is because during that third time, I could personally relate to the tragedy of the story because of where I am in my life.
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Post by stever on Nov 20, 2013 2:20:51 GMT
Experiencing the lows of life helps to reinforce the power of the positive moments in life. Tragic events help establish a spectrum or dichotomy between sadness and happiness, and experiencing something tragic can force us to reconsider what happiness is. Additionally, we experience most of our lives in between extreme happiness and extreme sadness, so in order to break the routine, we often feel the need to experience one of these extremes.
Additionally, tragedy (like comedy) can serve as a cathartic release. The experience of crying allows one to release emotions he or she may have kept hidden. As Kasey said, crying releases endorphins, and the release of endorphins in our brain creates a pleasant experience. In this way, tragedy is very similar to comedy. Comedy is a cathartic release, and the process of laughing similarly relieves tension and releases emotions. Laughing also releases endorphins in the brain -- the same "happy" chemical that crying releases. Chemically, we can say that we pay to watch comedies and tragedies because we physiologically crave the release of endorphins. In other words, we want to feel high and low emotions to trigger a cathartic release of pent-up emotions.
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Post by austinellerbruch on Nov 20, 2013 2:22:19 GMT
One of the greatest purposes of art is to allow us to dwell into experiences not witnessed in our everyday lives. In the case of tragedies, I think we like to repeatedly experience that moment of intensity presented in the tragedy, as it provides us the emotional experience without actually affecting us permanently. Tragedies influence unique emotions in the individual, and art allows us to feel these emotions repeatedly without being affected personally. As for why we revisit tragic piece of art while already knowing the result, I think it is because we are intrigued by the experience of that art, and so we experience it again and again because of the pleasure that it gives us. Many individuals (myself included) may revisit a tragic piece of art hoping for a different result. One may already know what the result of a tragedy will be, but the experience of that tragedy's occurrence still seems to draw the viewer into wondering what the result will be.
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Post by mattagritelley on Nov 20, 2013 2:55:52 GMT
If the tragedy and the comedy represent two opposing sides of a dichotomy, and each side has its own unique emotional response, then it is safe to say that the each side's response is as paramount and sought after as the other's. As humans, we like to (and are led to) believe that happiness and joy are the best and greatest feelings. Certainly they are fantastic. However, after seeing The Titanic, it is clear that the emotions induced by sadness, sacrifice and love are as addicting and exhilarating as utter hilarity and joyousness. This craving sends us back for more each time, even though we will likely experience these sad feelings. We are lulled into the emotional connection between the characters, even if the concept of the ship sinking is beyond our own understanding. James Cameron builds a bridge between an incomprehensible event and a highly sought after human quality, hooking us in from the get go. Moreover, we search to find something new each time, even if it is to no avail. The beauty within the tragedy stems from its fickle nature-- though you may have chosen to hone in on one specific aspect the first time you watched the film, the second time may prove to be totally different and illicit a fantastic new response.
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Post by fionabyrne on Nov 20, 2013 3:59:34 GMT
This question leads me to add another requirement to tragedy. In response to the other question I stated that tragedy must be something final and wholly terrible. I think that something that makes tragedy even more tragic is hope. Every person on the Titanic had something to look forward to. Industry was progressing into the future with great big indestructible ships that could carry all classes of people to new lands, and there was so much hope. If everyone had been indifferent, it may have still been a tragedy but not one we would pay to watch. Dashed dreams make tragedy sell.
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Post by jamiezimmerman on Nov 20, 2013 4:09:34 GMT
I've never seen the Titanic all the way through, and I can't say that I would bring myself to watch it over and over again. Now that I have established that I feel rather cynical about this movie, it makes sense to say that repeat viewings of the movie are a lot more about the Underdog than it is the tragedy of it all. We know it will end horribly and devastatingly for both of them. We know that the ship will sink and that many will die and that the grandparents lying on the bed clutching each other are sacrificing themselves. But I imagine that every time a person watches the movie, they are secretly hoping that Jack and his lady friend will triumph, because THE SPIRIT OF LOVE CONQUERS ALL AND IT IS THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE IN THE UNIVERSE and all that jazz. Jack and the girl are the Underdogs. Jack is city riff-raff, and the girl is a heartbreakingly oppressed young lady who just wants to be free from all the frilly dresses and manners and expectations of society (it could not be manufactured more perfectly). We can't help but root for them. Let's also consider: no one actually enjoys experience the sadness of tragedy. We would never in our right minds choose to attend the showing of a Tragedy film multiple times - unless we can identify a character who we want to beat all odds and end with success.
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Post by garygates on Nov 20, 2013 4:27:56 GMT
My simple answer for this question is that pain makes us feel alive. What is life without pain? Happiness is no longer happiness without sadness. Without sadness, happiness would be monotonous and reduced to just 'meh.' We need contrast in life to put our feelings and understanding into perspective. We watch media depicting life in third-world countries and are constantly reminded by our mothers to "be thankful for what we have." We are only drawn back to these events because prior to them, we did not know what we had. Life is meaningless until we grasp life and force our own meaning into it, like a forcing square peg into a round hole. Why do we consistently do this? I would say we, as humans, generally do not know how we should feel about life, so we invent meanings and feelings and use that that is different around us to contrast and define our lives. So when watching movies like Titanic, or unfortunate media footage it is not just the pain that we are seeking but the definition of life, and the organization and rules and boundaries that we give our lives structure. Although rules and boundaries may result in pain, the never-ending turmoil between pain and happiness is much better than the blankness and insecurity of not knowing how to feel.
Although I have not seen Titanic, this tragic/romantic archetype is commonly reproduced, so I believe that I have an understanding of the moods, themes and ideas prevalent in the film. The Titanic first carries the idea that I mentioned above: the events in the film make our lives seem better by comparison and give definition to pain and suffering. Tragedy, however, is not just one-dimensional; it often serves simultaneously as a warning and inspiration to its audience. Firstly it is inspiring because tragedy like Titanic often intermingles with love and inspires audience to find their own Leonardo DiCaprio or Kate Winslet. Then it strikes back and says, "you better find your love now, or it might be too late as it was for these two." The double-edged blade of tragedy is dramatic and emotional despite its cliche tendencies because it plays into the weak-spots that we all have. We all want love, and we all do not want to die without first YOLO-ing it up to the mostest. Tragedy just gives us a nice little kick in the rump and tells us to get moving.
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Post by davidqin on Nov 20, 2013 4:51:16 GMT
I just saw Madison Armstrong's post above and I really liked what she had to say. I think that works of art such as Titanic put a human face to nameless suffering. One of my personal pet peeves is how the media is constantly reporting about death and tragedy (connection to the other post!), to the point where they cease to stir any response in me. "Oh yeah, five people killed in ______?" "Why should I care?" Now I that I sound callous, but when the news of death and tragedy are treated in such a disconnected and sterile fashion, they lose their intrinsically-human significance. What Titanic does is remind me that human suffering and death are to be acknowledged with more than a cursory response, maybe even a reflection on what it means to be human. When Jack sacrifices himself for Rose, it reminds me that death isn't a statistic, it isn't a generic headline of how many people were killed by what means in what place. Death is the end to a unique set of experiences, and while it should be mourned, maybe it should even be celebrated. I watch Titanic to remember that death is personal and touching, and that connection gives me abit of thrill every time I watch it.
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Post by jennyxu on Nov 20, 2013 4:52:54 GMT
With literary tragedy, knowing the outcome actually makes the story more poignant. Since you know Jack will die at the end of Titanic, you value his relationship with Rose more. You begin to view the relationship from the tragic point of view, where something bad will happen and you can't do anything to stop it. I think we love literary tragedies for their play on our emotions. The first time, you read or watch the story for the plotline. But the value of tragedies comes in subsequent views or readings, where you begin to notice the foreshadows of doom and how preventable the ending is, yet isn't. When I read a story, I like to just quickly read through once, know the events that will happen, and then go back and indulge in the details. I am more emotionally invested when I know that things won't turn out the way the characters want them to. If Jack and Rose both survive, sure it's a great love story, but we would not love Titanic nearly as much.
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Post by kevinle on Nov 20, 2013 4:56:54 GMT
People watch Titanic over and over again for the same reason people watch any mind blowing movie multiple times. I don't think you'd pay to watch it every day though, for there must be space in between the viewings to allow you to forget how exactly you felt. When we have forgotten how it felt to watch the movie, we enjoy watching it again to relive the emotions. I doesn't pertain tragedy either. Avatar's graphics (and story) are incredible; I'd watch it again. Transformers is always entertaining, despite the terrible cheesiness, because of the effects. Inception sparks much awe; I'd watch that again too. People watch any movie they emotionally attach themselves to, be it happy or sad or shocked or anything.
Why do we spend perfectly good money on something multiple times even though we know the outcome? Because the outcome is enjoyable or desired.
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Post by coreybrown on Nov 20, 2013 5:07:58 GMT
For me, that's two separate questions: Why do we pay people good money to make us sad (when we watch/read a fictional tragedy)? and Why do we still feel those emotions (or want to revisit a tragic story) even though we know the outcome?
To answer the first part of it, I'd like to think it boils down to storytelling. We like a good story, and we like it best when we can fall for the characters and their goals. It's always nice to see a story where everything turns out fine and dandy and the main character got everything they ever wanted without...well...without really trying (I just saw Lakeridge's performance of How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying last Saturday and, though I thought their production and the play/music itself was amazing, I thought that the story lacked a moment where the character was truly faced with a tough choice [love or business success]), but it's so much more compelling to see a story where the character struggles (as we personally may have struggled) with their problems (be it life, love, work, or whatever) and (hopefully) ultimately succeeds. So what happens when they don't succeed? Why do we even want to be exposed to those kinds of stories? Sad stories are a part of life, so not having them in fiction would be odd, but, more importantly, sad stories make us feel those painful emotions without the sense of true loss. No one actually died, nothing is wrong, we're safe and sound in our own homes, but we feel the pain of the characters. It's kind of strange that we'd want to feel that pain, but it's also very human. What do we want if not to seek out emotions and experiences? Why do we watch movies about super-human-hyper-people with magic powers fighting equally super-human-(possibly-alien)-ultra-villainously-villainous-people? Because wouldn't it be kind of awesome to be (or even just see) one of those people in real life? Why do we watch movies that make us laugh? Or feel proud? Or feel happy? For the same reason we want to have stories that make us sad. We want to feel these emotions and stories let us do so in a safe environment.
As for the second part of the question....well...it's a bit odd that we'd want to see the same story once we know the ending. We know how we're gonna feel, we know what happens, why would we bother experiencing that again? In a detective story, it's pretty straight forward. See it again to catch all the awesome little clues you may have missed. But with something that ends in tragedy, despair, or sadness....why revisit that? The fact that we even consider revisiting a work like that is a testament to the skill with which it was crafted. There is something within the work that really spoke to whomever decides to come back to it. They know what they're going to feel and they want to feel that. They want to go back over that same journey with those characters, perhaps even with the hope that somehow, someway, it will end differently. Perhaps, if you were able to press pause or stop reading in the middle of the story, everything would be happy and perfect (this is something that my favorite book series as a kid, A Series of Unfortunate Events, did a lot. When something good had just happened, the author would say something like "you can stop reading right now and pretend that the three orphans lived out their days with their new guardians/friends and that Count Olaf [the villain] had been captured, but that is not how the story goes..." He'd then taunt you in a way by saying that he has no choice but to transcribe these events exactly as they happened, but that you could stop if you truly wanted to and go on pretending). No one can stop, however. Once you've begun the journey, it's hard to pull yourself away from the characters you care about. And, lo and behold, the tragedy you feared but knew was coming came with a bang. While many works are capable of this, not every work can make every viewer/reader feel that way about the story or the characters, but when it does...it's something very special indeed.
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Post by natalieskowlund on Nov 20, 2013 5:19:14 GMT
I sort of touched on this toward the end of my last post, but I think that tragedy takes us out of our "comfort zone" and prompts us to reconsider our own beliefs and sense of reality, and perhaps even how we have been living our life up until that point. Certainly, it's unsettling, but often it takes the most extreme occurrences, the most severe deviations from life's "pattern," that awaken us to the beauty of life in this moment and what is truly important in the end. And while that sounds utterly cliché, cliché things became cliché for a reason: they're exceedingly true.
In fact, I think tragic stories ultimately teach us to be stronger in our values and live more vibrantly. The works which have had the most lasting impact on me were most certainly tragedies in at least one sense of the word. For instance, one of my favorite novels is *As I Lay Dying* by William Faulkner. In summary, the book is about a family mourning the death of the mother Addie Bundren as they travel to bury her. Insanity, suicide, illegitimate pregnancy, natural disaster and myriad other incidents come up throughout the course of the novel, and the ending isn't hopeful in the least. So why do I love it so? (...besides the fact that the language in the novel is as beautiful as an overgrown English garden...). I love the story because it reminds me that people are never as simple as they seem at face value. As I delve into the minds of all these different characters, all trying to cope with Addie's death in their own ways, I realize the fragility of all human minds and the necessity of compassion between beings on this Earth. Reading that novel brought a new depth to my understanding of why it is important to be compassionate, an end result I am certain would not have existed had everything ended happily ever after for the Bundren family.
In essence, we do not love reading/watching a good tragedy because we love death, but rather because we love love love love life. What better way to appreciate what we have, what we get to experience, the people who care about us than to remind ourselves of the dark places from which we have come, and towards which we approach? Keeping the tragic parts of existence near to us is, in my opinion, the only way to live fully. When we don't distance ourselves from acknowledgement of the darkness, the light parts of life seem all the more bright in comparison.
I'll end with one of my favorite quotes of all time...just read it and ponder:
"No culture has yet solved the dilemma each has faced with the growth of a conscious mind: how to live a moral and compassionate existence when one is fully aware of the blood, the horror inherent in all life, when one finds darkness not only in one's own culture, but within oneself.
If there is a stage at which an individual life becomes truly adult, it must be when one grasps the irony in its unfolding and accepts responsibility for a life lived in the midst of such paradox. One must live in the middle of contradiction, because if all contradiction were eliminated, at once life would collapse. There are simply no answers to some of the great persistent questions. You continue to live them out, making your life a worthy expression of a leaning into the light." --Barry Lopez, "Arctic Dreams"
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Post by clairem on Nov 20, 2013 5:36:10 GMT
As twisted as this idea is, I truly think we invest in tragedy as entertainment because our lives, sometimes, become to boring and repetitive. There is only so much satisfaction that one can find in watching movies about happy endings after happy ending. Humans, on a daily basis, are capable of a range of emotions and when some of those haven't been fulfilled in the real world, we resort to other forms of entertainment to satisfy these human needs to be happy, sad, disappointed, scared, challenged, etc. When we watch tragedies we are able to see a side of ourselves and challenge an emotional side that we don't usually tap into or come face to face with. It is a twisted desire to force oneself into tragic situations like these merely to fill an emotional void, but it is important for humans to understand the full range of emotions they are capable of and satisfy them regularly.
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Post by juliamoreland on Nov 20, 2013 5:48:42 GMT
I have never seen the titanic! Although, I am a sucker for other silly romantics or tragedies, so I should get on that. I agree that we watch these tragedies because it serves as an emotional release. Instead of having to face your own personal dilemma or tragedy, you can observe others. Except, the one’s you watch have idealistic endings and lead you to the false assumption that everything will be all right. Watching tragedies allows for the audience to have the same relief and emotional journey, without any of the long lasting pains. I also really liked what some classmates were saying about the value of endings. This falls into my point because closure is an extremely desirable thing in our society. Even I like to think that knowing the ending will make me "more appreciative" and aware, but really, I just want reassurance that the possibility of closure exists.
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Post by rubyking on Nov 20, 2013 5:53:13 GMT
This is also a difficult question that I've asked myself--and I still don't have the answer. I'll start off by saying that I also cry rather easily, but I like it, I think, because it puts me in a vulnerable position. Perhaps some individuals don't experience real emotion often enough, and tragedy is a way to fulfill that. (Steve and Kasey also touched on this with releasing endorphins/emotions that are hidden--I really like these explanations and relate to them completely)
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