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Post by danyhong55 on Jun 4, 2014 6:32:29 GMT
Disclaimer: Not in your group but I really wanted to make a point.
Context contextualizes.
There are always more sides to a story than one. Many more in fact. I think that we as readers are only getting a brief picture of who Ruth is and the nature of her relationship with her father. She does not deserve much of the flak that Macom Jr. gives her. He walked into a situation that he was not prepared for, nor one he truly understood.
On the other hand, who Ruth is is a question of how much she is not saying. Her character is not defined by who she is, but who she is not. As many people have quoted and referenced before in page 75, "She was too insubstantial, too shadowy for love. But it was her vaporishness that made her more needful of defense." Morrison shows who she is not through the eyes of Milkman. However... we must consider that this is only one side to the story, Milkman's side. Not to say that isn't valid, but her character is far more complex than we can truly appreciate and to take things at a surface value is to devalue Ruth as a character.
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Post by chrisb on Jun 4, 2014 6:33:45 GMT
robertxu hits the ball out of the park here! Mr. Xu is, without a doubt, "beautiful, educated and dignified," but his most positive qualities pale in comparison to the damages of a reductive approach in this context. Although the reader struggles to connect with Ruth Dead, her actions trigger a visceral response, thus placing an emphasis on primitive instinct and human life at its most basic level. They might as well call her Ruth Alive.
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Post by Anna M. on Jun 4, 2014 7:01:06 GMT
I will rep for Ruth until I die. I just feel freaking bad for her. Yes, she is weird. But, I know their are good people in this world who have done weirder than weaning their child well past the time they are babies. Other than Pilate, Ruth is the only other person who truly and genuinely loves Milkman unconditionally, knowing this, her reasoning for breastfeeding Milkman so late in his life must have somehow made since and she didn't mean for anything bad to happen . Reading Ruth's narrative made me feel more sympathy for Ruth. We can't know whether Macon really saw Ruth naked with her dead father, or if he was exaggerating and Ruth was just kissing his hands. I think Macon's reason for despising Ruth is irrational. He mistrusts her and the doctor because they insisted that the doctor deliver her baby. But, the doctor is after all a doctor, and as Ruth explains, he is also the only person on the planet who gives a crap about her well being. Macon is close-minded, made not only by the way he describes Ruth and her father, but also the way he shuns his sister and her lifestyle and for this reason I do not trust his perception of Ruth.
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Post by shannonfender on Jun 4, 2014 9:02:00 GMT
Ruth is initially one of the most likable characters in the novel. You definitely feel for her since she is treated so horribly by both Macon and her father. Knowing what I know now, Ruth's weird and creepy obsession with breastfeeding Milkman is selfish. It is clear that this behavior stems from her failed relationships with other men in her life, but I'm not sure that really justifies anything. In the end, my initial sympathy towards Ruth first became pity and then became contempt.
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