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Post by Lauren on Mar 25, 2014 5:09:56 GMT
Alrighty, time to talk about the most obvious motif in the book (its even in the title...) Light and Darkness!
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Post by stever on Mar 28, 2014 21:43:58 GMT
I thought I'd start us off with a few passages. I'll be back to do some analysis, later, but this will help us start off.
"The air was dark above Gravesend, and farther back still seemed condensed into a mournful gloom, brooding motionless over the biggest, and the greatest, town on earth" (1).
"It was difficult to realize his work was not out there in the luminous estuary, but behind him, within the brooding gloom" (1).
"And at last, in its curved and imperceptible fall, the sun sank low, and from glowing white changed to a dull red without rays and without heat, as if about to go out suddenly, stricken to death by the touch of that gloom brooding over a crowd of men" (2).
"'And this also,' said Marlow suddenly, 'has been one of the dark places of the earth'" (3).
"They were men enough to face the darkness" (4).
"It had ceased to be a blank space of delightful mystery -- a white patch for a boy to dream gloriously over. It had become a place of darkness" (5). -- I think this quote would be interesting to analyze further. We would normally think of mystery or undiscovered land as darkness, but in this passage, Conrad describes it as the opposite. It also fits into the whole imperialism=bad theme.
"Darkness, knitting black wool as for a warm pall, one introducing, introducing continuously to the unknown, the other scrutinizing the cheery and foolish faces with unconcerned old eyes" (8). --I think in this quote it might be interesting to look at how the darkness of knitting, bringing order to the disorderly yarn, is similar to the darkness involved in imperialism.
"We penetrated deeper and deeper into the heart of darkness" (30). -- Omg, they said the title I wonder if that means the quote's important or something.
Feel free to post other passages, I'm still reading and I'm sure I missed quite a few. I also think we should look at darkness as it pertains to race, the irony that a hot and sunny climate is compared to darkness, and darkness as a metaphor for evil, misunderstanding, and limited perspectives. And of course, imperialism.
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Post by Lauren on Mar 29, 2014 22:32:45 GMT
I have some more passages from section 3!
After Kurtz is found dead: "There was a lamp in there--light--don't you know--and outside it was so beastly, beastly dark" (69)
Describing Kurtz's fiance "The room seemed to have grown darker as if all the sad light of the cloudy evening had taken refuge on her forehead" (74)
"I could not tell her. It would have been too dark--too dark altogether..." (77) meaning more than just "horror" being a scary word, but that Kurtz is pointing out a deep depressing truth
"The offing was barred by a black bank of clouds, and the tranquil waterway leading to the uttermost ends of the earth flowed sombre under an overcast sky--seemed to lead into the heart of an immense darkness" (77)
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Post by natalieskowlund on Mar 30, 2014 19:42:25 GMT
What is our statement about dark vs. light?
I was thinking: Conrad uses contrast between dark vs. light in order to help reinforce his idea that often we become deceived by accepted notions of truth and the world, when in reality truth may exist where it was never expected.
Here's some quotes I found as well:
"After all, that was only a savage sight while I seemed at one bound to have been transported into some lightless region of subtle horrors, where pure, uncomplicated savagery was a positive relief, being something that had a right to exist--obviously--in the sunshine" (58). Sunshine=deceptive "truth", lightless region=truth that we don't want to acknowledge
"...Before the faith that was in her, before that great and saving illusion that shone with an unearthly glow in the darkness, in the triumphant darkness from which I could not have defended her--from which I could not even defend myself...Her fair hair seemed to catch all the remaining light in a glimmer of gold" (75). Refers to Kurtz's lady back home, how she is in illusion of light/truth, when darkness is surrounding her & Marlow.
"But with every word spoken the room was growing darker and only her forehead smooth and white remained illumined by the unextinguishable light of belief and love" (74). Again^
"She came forward all in black with a pale head, floating towards me in the dusk" (73) ^Again
"One evening coming in with a candle I was startled to hear him say a little tremulously, 'I am lying here in the dark waiting for death.' The light was within a foot of his eyes" (69). Kurtz no longer sees the false light of truth, only "The horror!" of darkness.
"'Mistah Kurtz--he dead.' All the pilgrims rushed out to see...There was a lamp in there--light--don't you know--and outside it was so beastly, beastly dark. I went no more near the remarkable man who had pronounced judgement upon the adventures of his soul on this earth" (69). ^again
"Kurtz discoursed. A voice! A voice! It rang deep to the last. It survived his strength to hide in the magnificent folds of eloquence the barren darkness of his heart" (67-68).
"When I woke up shortly after midnight his warning came to my mind with its hint of danger that seemed in the starred darkness real enough to make me get up for the purpose of having a look round. On the hill a big fire burned, illuminating fitfully a crooked corner of the station house. One of the agents with a picket of a few of our blacks armed for the purpose was keeping guard over the ivory, but deep within the forest red gleams that wavered, that seemed to sink and rise form the ground amongst confused columnar shapes of intense blackness, showed the exact position of the camp where Mr. Kurtz's adorers were keeping their uneasy vigil" (63).
"His voice lost itself in the calm of the evening. The long shadow of the forest had slipped downhill while we talked, had gone far beyond the ruined hovel, beyond the symbolic row os takes. All this was in the gloom while we down there were yet in the sunshine, and the stretch of the river abreast of the clearing glittered in the still and dazzling splendour with a murky and over-shadowed bend above and below" (58-59). Speaking of Kurtz's weird, young Russian follower, who is obviously deceived by Kurtz's facade of grandiosity and power (in sunshine), while reality of Kurtz is "murky" and dark.
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Post by stever on Mar 31, 2014 1:30:35 GMT
Natalie -- I think that's a good statement about the light vs. darkness. I think that the theme has multiple layers. It can be seen in a simplistic, basic, and sort of racist way: the African "savages" are darkness, while the European, white people are light. This way of reading the novel is like the deceptive truth that comes with light, it is a basic approach that we may want to believe that is not entirely true. The other, deeper way to read it is that darkness lies in the heart of everyone (as evidenced by the title) instead of on the surface. Darkness images are everywhere in the novel and are used to describe both the Europeans and the Africans, indicating that there is a bit of darkness in everyone's heart no matter what the surface appears to show. Darkness also is used ironically to describe the sunny climate in Africa. This way of reading the novel is the deeper truth we may not want to acknowledge, like the darkness.
This deeper reading is further reinforced by the darkness images associated with Imperialism: "It had ceased to be a blank space of delightful mystery -- a white patch for a boy to dream gloriously over. It had become a place of darkness" (5). Ironically, when people colonize areas and try to bring light to the heart of darkness, they darken the areas further. This is further reinforced by the knitting imagery because knitting, like imperialism, is also bringing unnatural order to something: "Darkness, knitting black wool as for a warm pall, one introducing, introducing continuously to the unknown, the other scrutinizing the cheery and foolish faces with unconcerned old eyes" (8).
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Post by avinash on Apr 5, 2014 18:22:38 GMT
The contrast between the light skinned pilgrims and the Africans is something we can touch on. Light is seen as pure in the beginning by Marlow. But later he realizes that "sunlight can be made to lie, too." This goes hand in hand with the reader bring exposed to the morally wrong deeds most of the white pilgrims commit. White and light starts off being seen as pure and good but this vision is soon corrupted. This change also represents Conrad's depressing theme for the book. This book certainly isn't meant to be uplifting and the fact that light often gives way to dark in this novel signifies that.
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Post by austinellerbruch on Apr 6, 2014 21:11:30 GMT
I was going to talk about what Lauren found so I had to do some more digging. One little detail of the text that I found interesting were the two woman knitting black wool as Marlow visits the doctor for his examination before heading to Africa. "Often far away I thought of these two, guarding the door of Darkness, knitting black wool as for a warm pall, one introducing, introducing continuously to the unknown, the other scrutinising the cheery and foolish faces with unconcerned eyes."(Conrad 10) I liken these two women to the Fates in Greek mythology. What I first found interesting about them was the fact that they were knitting black wool, a color attributed to darkness. I also found it interesting the roles they each played, one to give comfort to those entering the darkness, and the other to deceive those by entering by lacking concern for them. Darkness is deceiving with its, and these women seem to represent that.
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Post by shannonfender on Jun 3, 2014 4:20:13 GMT
Well, in my opinion, what makes Heart of Darkness unique from other works of literature is that light and dark are not portrayed with traditional and rigid definitions.
In Lord of the Flies you see the dynamic of light=good and dark=bad, but Heart of Darkness definitely tests that notion. In LOTF, the conch represents innocence and the last shred of unity and hope for Ralph. The imagery here is quite clear. The boars head, by contrast, represents the darkness present with human nature. There is no confusion that the whiteness of the conch represents that clarity and purity, whereas the darkness of the head/flies represents something much more grim and heinous. In this example the boundaries are quite literally set and the light/dark imagery isn't particularly complex.
Initially, Heart of Darkness sort of plays into the traditional use of light and dark imagery by creating a storyline around the brave white European adventures who seek out the coveted ivory amidst the dark forest and whatever evils lay within. Africans are also thought to be savage. However, as the novel progresses, Joseph Conrad deconstructs this notion by showing how the lines are blurred. The ivory, which once was so precious and alluring, becomes a source of corruption and greed in men's hearts. The white men he initially respects become contemptible and barbaric. Thus, the lines are blurred. There is not that stark juxtaposition between light and dark....As Marlow says, "sunlight can be made a lie too".
Here are some quotes that can be particularly useful to share with the class:
(erm I can't find the sunset quote so I'm going to post this and edit later k bye)
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Post by steph on Jun 4, 2014 5:30:32 GMT
We discussed often in class the apparent duality of symbolism between light and dark, even the eventual swapping of roles. The light blinds us to the truth, and as it dims it forces us to face the Horror, while the darkness of the truth surrounds us anyway, while the dark always seems more tangible than the light in Heart of Darkness, as exampled by the quote, "After all, that was only a savage sight while I seemed at one bound to have been transported into some lightless region of subtle horrors, where pure, uncomplicated savagery was a positive relief, being something that had a right to exist--obviously--in the sunshine" (58). I wonder, in my scattered, tired ponderings currently (and I just happened to reread the title), whether "Heart of Darkness" must be as macabre a title as it sounds. It ultimately must be reconsidered with all the intricacies of the book (which is why rereading a title and the first chapter of pieces is often interesting), and maybe even sheds lights onto the meaning of the darkness in question.
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Post by chrisb on Jun 4, 2014 6:22:20 GMT
steph has done it again. I can say with confidence that we concur. And when we're discussing "subtle horrors," it is absolutely essential that we keep in mind the historical and racial context. Upon further analysis, we can conclude that "light" is, indeed, the opposite of "dark." This point of analysis reveals the perplexing nature of Marlow's internal struggle.
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Post by rileyhatfield on Jun 5, 2014 18:56:57 GMT
The motif regarding light is very intriguing because it brings about the concept of innocence and ignorance, but also the impact of sympathy and empathy on people. While on the other side of this, darkness looks at the impact of the lack of sympathy and not being aware of people are seeing them for who they really are, as well as having a lack of innocence, and knowing the full truth but then suffering the consequence for that full truth. These light and dark motifs are shown through the characters in the book mostly. For example, the intended in described as having light and golden hair, and a light presence about her. She is seen as being ignorant about the fact that her fiancé's last words were not her own name but the words, "The Horror! The Horror!"
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