Post by garygates on Aug 2, 2013 23:02:34 GMT
Throughout the majority of the novel I tried desperately to read Grendel's thoughts and understand what was going through his head at important decision-making times, but I don't know how much I really understood and how much Grendel leaves untold. To me, Grendel seems like sort of a teenage monster, one who is maturing, but having a lot of difficulty in making up his mind and deciding what his life truly means.
One item that especially interested me was Grendel's rationale on whether to kill or to let live. Grendel comes into events with certain reckless ideas like deciding to raze a mead hall, or kill and eat a certain person or group, but I found he often changed his mind, and instead of continuing a rampage, chose instead to spare a life. My question is why. Why does Grendel spare certain lives and end others? Why can he not seem to make up his mind? What are his true emotions and opinions?
These questions are very broad right now, so before you answer them I'd like to delve further in to the subject and present you with a couple instances, because although you may have a set opinion of Grendel's behavior and what causes him to tick, I believe that there are many different paths and ideas that we should observe.
One event that I think we should read into is Grendel's sparing of the queen, Wealtheow. On this very night, Grendel smashes through the meadhall doors, kills all the guards in his way, and grabs Wealtheow. Here Grendel tells his readers, "I decided to kill her. I firmly committed myself to killing her, slowly, horribly" (109). Before roasting Wealtheow over a fire, Grendel starts to thing about cause and effect. Grendel fantasizes about how his actions, his killing of the queen, will, "teach [the people] reality. Grendel the truth-teacher, phantasm-tester! It was what I would be from this day forward...nothing alive or dead could change my mind" (110). And then, as Grendel humorously admits, he changes his mind. He says, "It would be meaningless, killing her. As meaningless as letting her live. It would be, for me, mere pointless pleasure, an illusion of order for this one frail, foolish flicker-flash in the long dull fall of eternity" (110).
I am quite honestly fascinated by this passage. This is as close to truly understanding Grendel and his thoughts as I think we get in the novel, yet we are still so far away from knowing if our interpretations and analyses are correct. Struggling to understand Grendel, I have changed my mind numerous times, trying to understand his reason for sparing Wealtheow. It could be as literal and simple as Grendel makes it out to be; he does not think that killing Wealtheow will change anything, thus he will inevitably not live out his fantasies as "truth-teacher", but will only be killing her for pure pleasure. Then why does he not kill her. If the outcome is predetermined, then there will be no added consequences from this action, that is none that are unavoidable and already set in motion before the queen's death. That is why it is not so simple, Grendel does fear consequences, or he does have conflicting feelings. I think part of Grendel, the part that loves the shape-shifters song, might actually love Wealtheow, or at least feel compassionate enough to let her live. Then there is also the idea that Grendel is not as nihilistic and fatalistic as he sometimes makes himself out to be. Maybe he does not believe in the dragon's words or prefers to think that he has some power in shaping the future of his own life.
A contrasting event occurs earlier in Grendel's life, soon after meeting the Dragon. After Grendel's dark journey into nihilism and fatalism he seemingly becomes invincible. Upon understanding this and destroying a meadhall, Grendel seems to become joyous and proclaims himself, "Grendel, Ruiner of Meahalls, Wrecker of Kings!" (80). One important thing that I think that I overlooked the first time that I read through this chapter was the fact that Grendel does not admit to true happiness in his killing frenzy and rampage. Instead he feels rather lonely, "But though I laughed, I felt trapped, as hollow as a rotten tree. The meadhall seemed to stetch for miles, out to the edges of time and space, and I saw myself killing them, on and on and on, as if mechanically" (81). If there is one thing that Grendel does not like, it is to feel like a mechanical and mindless animal. Feeling like a machine makes Grendel feel alone, something that haunts him throughout his life and definitely distances his from the ideas of the Dragon.
Grendel goes on to have his encounter with Unferth, a person Grendel mocks as being heroic. Grendel doesn't seem to believe in heroism, or at least part of him does not want to because the Dragon's words have tought him that all is predetermined. Therefore, if he cannot be "Wrecker of Kings," Unferth definitely cannot be a hero. Grendel, however, instead of killing Unferth, chooses to torture him. Unferth wants to, just like Grendel, be heroic, and talked about through time as some sort of super figure, one who devotes his life to a cause and changes the paths of future. Grendel wants to kill Unferth, but chooses to hold back. I think the chooses to hold back because he has something to learn from Unferth. Grendel at this time cannot choose whether heroism is real or fake, and is thus split between the ideas of the Dragon and the Shaper. It seems obvious that Grendel is siding with the dragon in not killing Unferth, shattering the illusion of heroism and reenforcing the fact that Unferth's death would not change anything, however I believe there might be more to Grendel then that. I think Grendel spares Unferth because he is scared. If he kills Unferth, he risks the chance of making Unferth a hero, something that Grendel himself desperately wants. And if Grendel chooses to let Unferth live, as he does, he will not know whether heroism exists, and thus whether the Dragon's or the Shaper's teachings are correct. There are other reasons that Grendel could have chose to spare Unferth's life. Maybe it makes him feel less mechanical as I quoted before. Or maybe Grendel is just a sadistic character, that enjoys torturing Unferth instead of killing him.
I'm going to leave it for you to decide.
So, wrapping this all together, what do you think is really guiding Grendel's choices in sparing certain lives and ending others?
And digging deeper, what do you these scenes really tell us about Grendel's opinions and ideologies? Does he agree with the Dragon, the Shaper, something else, or can he really just not decide (making his decision-making spontaneous and mercurial)?
One item that especially interested me was Grendel's rationale on whether to kill or to let live. Grendel comes into events with certain reckless ideas like deciding to raze a mead hall, or kill and eat a certain person or group, but I found he often changed his mind, and instead of continuing a rampage, chose instead to spare a life. My question is why. Why does Grendel spare certain lives and end others? Why can he not seem to make up his mind? What are his true emotions and opinions?
These questions are very broad right now, so before you answer them I'd like to delve further in to the subject and present you with a couple instances, because although you may have a set opinion of Grendel's behavior and what causes him to tick, I believe that there are many different paths and ideas that we should observe.
One event that I think we should read into is Grendel's sparing of the queen, Wealtheow. On this very night, Grendel smashes through the meadhall doors, kills all the guards in his way, and grabs Wealtheow. Here Grendel tells his readers, "I decided to kill her. I firmly committed myself to killing her, slowly, horribly" (109). Before roasting Wealtheow over a fire, Grendel starts to thing about cause and effect. Grendel fantasizes about how his actions, his killing of the queen, will, "teach [the people] reality. Grendel the truth-teacher, phantasm-tester! It was what I would be from this day forward...nothing alive or dead could change my mind" (110). And then, as Grendel humorously admits, he changes his mind. He says, "It would be meaningless, killing her. As meaningless as letting her live. It would be, for me, mere pointless pleasure, an illusion of order for this one frail, foolish flicker-flash in the long dull fall of eternity" (110).
I am quite honestly fascinated by this passage. This is as close to truly understanding Grendel and his thoughts as I think we get in the novel, yet we are still so far away from knowing if our interpretations and analyses are correct. Struggling to understand Grendel, I have changed my mind numerous times, trying to understand his reason for sparing Wealtheow. It could be as literal and simple as Grendel makes it out to be; he does not think that killing Wealtheow will change anything, thus he will inevitably not live out his fantasies as "truth-teacher", but will only be killing her for pure pleasure. Then why does he not kill her. If the outcome is predetermined, then there will be no added consequences from this action, that is none that are unavoidable and already set in motion before the queen's death. That is why it is not so simple, Grendel does fear consequences, or he does have conflicting feelings. I think part of Grendel, the part that loves the shape-shifters song, might actually love Wealtheow, or at least feel compassionate enough to let her live. Then there is also the idea that Grendel is not as nihilistic and fatalistic as he sometimes makes himself out to be. Maybe he does not believe in the dragon's words or prefers to think that he has some power in shaping the future of his own life.
A contrasting event occurs earlier in Grendel's life, soon after meeting the Dragon. After Grendel's dark journey into nihilism and fatalism he seemingly becomes invincible. Upon understanding this and destroying a meadhall, Grendel seems to become joyous and proclaims himself, "Grendel, Ruiner of Meahalls, Wrecker of Kings!" (80). One important thing that I think that I overlooked the first time that I read through this chapter was the fact that Grendel does not admit to true happiness in his killing frenzy and rampage. Instead he feels rather lonely, "But though I laughed, I felt trapped, as hollow as a rotten tree. The meadhall seemed to stetch for miles, out to the edges of time and space, and I saw myself killing them, on and on and on, as if mechanically" (81). If there is one thing that Grendel does not like, it is to feel like a mechanical and mindless animal. Feeling like a machine makes Grendel feel alone, something that haunts him throughout his life and definitely distances his from the ideas of the Dragon.
Grendel goes on to have his encounter with Unferth, a person Grendel mocks as being heroic. Grendel doesn't seem to believe in heroism, or at least part of him does not want to because the Dragon's words have tought him that all is predetermined. Therefore, if he cannot be "Wrecker of Kings," Unferth definitely cannot be a hero. Grendel, however, instead of killing Unferth, chooses to torture him. Unferth wants to, just like Grendel, be heroic, and talked about through time as some sort of super figure, one who devotes his life to a cause and changes the paths of future. Grendel wants to kill Unferth, but chooses to hold back. I think the chooses to hold back because he has something to learn from Unferth. Grendel at this time cannot choose whether heroism is real or fake, and is thus split between the ideas of the Dragon and the Shaper. It seems obvious that Grendel is siding with the dragon in not killing Unferth, shattering the illusion of heroism and reenforcing the fact that Unferth's death would not change anything, however I believe there might be more to Grendel then that. I think Grendel spares Unferth because he is scared. If he kills Unferth, he risks the chance of making Unferth a hero, something that Grendel himself desperately wants. And if Grendel chooses to let Unferth live, as he does, he will not know whether heroism exists, and thus whether the Dragon's or the Shaper's teachings are correct. There are other reasons that Grendel could have chose to spare Unferth's life. Maybe it makes him feel less mechanical as I quoted before. Or maybe Grendel is just a sadistic character, that enjoys torturing Unferth instead of killing him.
I'm going to leave it for you to decide.
So, wrapping this all together, what do you think is really guiding Grendel's choices in sparing certain lives and ending others?
And digging deeper, what do you these scenes really tell us about Grendel's opinions and ideologies? Does he agree with the Dragon, the Shaper, something else, or can he really just not decide (making his decision-making spontaneous and mercurial)?