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Post by billfeng on Aug 18, 2013 3:20:03 GMT
Contains spoilers: Beowulf, Hero of the Geats: the legendary slayer of Grendel, Grendel's mother, and the Dragon.
Gardner presented a rather cold image of Beowulf (who is depicted but not named) in the final two chapters of the novel. When Grendel first spies upon Beowulf, he states that the man maintains an "ironic" smile and the personality of a madman. When Beowulf tears off Grendel's arm in the meadhall, Grendel depicts the man in a fiendish manner.
I think Gardner is attempting to metaphorically compare Beowulf's demeanor to that of the Dragon. In the earlier portion of the novel, the Dragon presents himself as an entity of fate and infinite knowledge. Is Gardner depicting Beowulf in this sense to show that Grendel has met his fate and demise? Why do you think Grendel, or rather Gardner, depicts the titular hero in such a manner? I'd like to hear your opinions and ideas.
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Post by samwerner on Aug 18, 2013 21:17:07 GMT
I agree that Beowulf personifies Grendel's fate. Although Grendel wants to remain untouchable, as he begins to over-think his situation, he simply cannot deny that he feels something distinctly different about Beowulf. Grendel's first expression of pure fear erupts as he depicts the hero as the dragon, who, upon meeting with Grendel, was the only being Grendel feared and respected before Beowulf. It seems that the dragon represents not only fate, but Grendel's actual demise because Grendel knows he can never be as all-powerful as the dragon.
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Post by avinash on Aug 23, 2013 22:11:16 GMT
Fear is what eventually leads to Grendel’s demise. Grendel fears what he doesn't understand and know about. Take, Wealtheow for example. Grendel doesn’t completely understand the feelings he has towards her. Grendel’s nihilistic mindset leads him to resent Wealtheow and the attraction he feels towards her. During his contemplations about Wealtheow, Grendel often feels the dragon’s presence. “The smell of the dragon lay around me like sulphurous smoke” (102). The dragon represents the nihilism that forces Grendel to plot to kill Wealtheow in order to remove his attraction to her.
Back to your question. Beowulf, like you said, is related to the dragon numerous times by Gardner. That is because Beowulf stands for what the dragon stands for. Even when he was meeting with Hrothgar it seemed like he knew something everyone else didn’t. After Beowulf dismantles Unferth’s sarcastic comments everyone respected Beowulf’s presence. “The hall was numb. The stranger was no player of games” (163). This is just like the dragon’s omniscient presence.
When Grendel meets the dragon it seems that he is no match for the dragon’s nihilistic views. Grendel’s encounter with Wealtheow shows he is weak compared to the dragon. Beowulf, on the other hand, seems to be a contemporary of the dragon. Every time Grendel doubts himself or is in fear, he senses the dragon’s presence around him (see above). For that reason, it is only fitting that Beowulf ends Grendel’s life and acts sort of like the second coming of the dragon.
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Post by chrisb on Sept 4, 2013 3:53:09 GMT
Hi Bill! I think you have some great ideas here.
I believe, as you suspect, that Gardner uses dragon-themed language in order to tie together the Dragon and Beowulf relative to the role of fate in Grendel's death. In fact, I believe there is more textual evidence to support your theory!
During Grendel's meeting with the Dragon, the Dragon complains about his own future death, explaining, "Even I will be gone. A certain man will absurdly kill me" (70). The Dragon's words increase in meaning later in the novel, as Grendel remarks on the absurdity of his own demise during his fight with Beowulf: "If you win, it's by mindless chance. Make no mistake. First you tricked me, and then I slipped. Accident" (171). Thus, Grendel's death is not only predicted, but, in some ways, pre-discussed by the Dragon, emphasizing the overwhelming power of fate in Grendel's death.
Thank you.
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